Cellar Door Skeptics 164: Everyone Is Awesome and Agnostic Except Jesus


This episode functions like the Lego Movie’s theme of “Everything is Awesome” while looking at being an Agnostic Atheist. They start the episode out by talking the phenomena that Hanna has found where Paper Airplanes are playing a new role in automation. The show moves toward a discussion on how the Bible is not only a harmful to display in schools but may also be harmful to Christians as they take their journey with their faith. They then interview Marie from Everyone’s Agnostic Podcast with her decision to join the show and her desire to help those who want to leave their faith and need stories to guide them through the journey. The show ends with Tanner and Hannas quicksaves.

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Intro: Airplane Spectacular Phenomena
Segment: Teaching the bible in school may be harmful to Christians
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Tanner: Remove Plane Cabins Disaster
Hanna’s: 100 Years of Wealth

If I were god

If I were god, I would have set the universe in motion from an easily discoverable point of creation. I wouldn’t have told primitive beings through mental meditation techniques the importance of the origins story. To proclaim the beginning of life I would have created a pillar indestructible and visible to all those who wanted to view it


If I were god, I would have created one language that humans could all speak. It would be easily understood and without nuisance to learn. I would have enlightened man to garner the power of this language in order to prevent the division of language barriers quite unlike the biblical story of the tower of Babel where I purposely confused mankind


If I were god, the world would not have natural disasters that kill millions of people. If I felt the need to end the lives of millions I would proclaim aloud why; I would not take the innocent, but focus on those that went against my commands. I would write it in the sky or appear simultaneously to everyone to make this proclamation to allow time for repentance and redemption.


If I were god, I would I would make it known to man every time he asked me. There wouldn’t be individual visions but one consolidated vision give to those who ask where I am. Humans would know that I am real, not by having to develop and retool old philosophies, but by establishing one never changing philosophy. There would be no need for churches of varying types because everyone would know what I stood for and who I am.
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A response to “Religion and science can we talk?”

We here at Atheist Analysis don’t usually create formal response letters to blogs or news stories unless they are of immense social and humanistic consequence, but recently a link was given to me that lead to a progressive christian blog.  This more compromising version of faith is, to me, less harmful and overall a step in the right general direction, while still providing enough material for all of us here on the blog team to continue picking apart the hypocrisy; it’s the cutting off heads and hellfire damnation that is lacking – for the better, most would concede.


For this short reply blogger Moonlit History and I, Deafilosophy (or Chris Hanna as there are a lot of pseudonyms being thrown around at the moment), will be commenting on some of the points, perspectives, open-ended questions, and conclusions made in the article linked above.  So without further ado, I will begin.



Aside from the horrendous grammar in the title of the article at hand, or, more accurately, the lack thereof, I was initially quite content with just perusing the content with a smile as any time people of faith accept science over empty pseudo-superlatives I get all warm and fuzzy inside.  But, that title just ate at me. Let’s try, “Religion and Science: Can We Talk?” instead.  There, isn’t that better?


As an engineer and open atheist almost all my life, I did not know atheism had a name until high school. I am quite familiar with most of the apologetic and progressive arguments for God that absorb scientific explanations.  Immediately the fine tuning argument is casually implied with an invocation of the cosmological constant, and, of course, mentioning Albert Einstein, a noted Spinozan deist at best.


Two things and then I will give the floor to my esteemed colleague; the fine tuning argument is the most basic argument for the prime mover, for classical deism, and it is also the limit of our understanding of the universe at the moment.  But using this argument to prove the personal Christian God is to overextend and ultimately, as C.S. Lewis was so apt to do, try to prove too much with too little:


“Sigmund Freud wrote that the voice of reason was small, but very persistent. C. S. Lewis tried to prove too much by opining that the presence of a conscience indicated the divine spark” (Hitchens, “god is not Great,” 2007, p. 256).
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Sunday: A Day of the Weak

© Religion Erased

On the next fateful Sunday, many will worship. The title of this post is not aimed to accuse anyone of emotional weakness, I know there are many out there suffering the loss of loved ones, including myself. It is aimed at those capable of thinking and opt not to.


Three Christians travelling from London asked me this question recently: “Do I go to church?” I was at work, so was verbally bound whilst representing a business. It wasn’t the time nor place to reply or have a deeper discussion; not that I agree with that.


They jumped into a taxi. The floodgates opened and a wave of potential responses would have had Noah shaking in his sandals. The mental shackles were lifted and the conversation that could have been played out in imaginary dialogue. That’s the life we live. Speaking about or against religion is taboo and therefore instinctively I did not say anything. If I was outside of work? Definitely. For the next hour or so hindsight proved to be wonderful and inspired me to write about it.


You can socialbly trash-talk over who supports the best football team or listens to the best music. Why should I hold back on religion? I guess it means much more than that. The funny thing is, whichever deity you believe in, I am sure said God could squash me like a fly. God has an undeniably unfair advantage.
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Personal Journey Series: My Atheist Testimony

I get a lot of messages, most of which are asking about my deconversion from christianity. People want to know why I left, what it meant to me when I was a christian, and why I don’t see any reason to return. For anyone who has asked, and anyone else who is curious, here is my testimony.


I started life as an atheist. My parents, who were both raised as catholics, never felt the need to force religion or god upon me. I have never seen my mother or father as being faithful. As an adult I have come to know my dad is an atheist and my mother is (basically) a pantheist. My mum and dad were both followers of a man called Prem Rawat (Maharaji), an Indian guru with millions of followers world-wide who preaches peace and love. Many consider him to be a new messiah (he does not claim this himself). My parents often encouraged me to embrace the messages / teachings of Maharaji throughout my childhood and teenage years, but I never connected.


What I did connect with, though, was christianity. At age 6 my mum enrolled me into two christian institutions; the nearby lutheran church Sunday school and the local Girls Brigade company (pic below). Her only motivation for doing this was free childcare. She and my dad had divorced when I was 5 and my mum was working full time – the church offered what was ultimately cheap babysitting. For me though, it would start me on a path that would consume my existence for the next 15 years.
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One Foot In The Church, One Foot In The World: An Atheist Perspective.

There are many Christian blogs and other faith-based writings that speak about living with ‘one foot in the church and one in the world.’ The majority of these point out that living this way is only meeting god halfway and urging people to get both feet in the church. From a Christian perspective this is important for a couple of reasons. Firstly (but not necessarily most importantly), it is what the Bible teaches. Romans 12:2 states bluntly; “Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

It is not the Bible though, that seems to truly inspire this vigilance regarding living with two feet in the church. Rather, it seems to be more a request to deny and reject secular culture and elements of popular culture which Christians, especially Christian youth, find desirable, even irresistible. This ideal of worldly rejection in itself is by no means a new development in the church or Christianity; on the contrary, it has always been the goal. Only the fact that this ideal is being rejected en masse by Christian youth worldwide is a new experience for the church, as are the desperate requests for children to ignore the world in favour of Christ.

In more recent years, as the church has begun to come to terms with the fact that popular culture is winning the war in the battle for youth involvement, it has started to defile itself by bringing these seductive pop culture elements into the church in an attempt to lure in the youth; the most obvious example is the integration of secular music and contemporary worship into older church models. While this new adaptive method of fishing for a congregation might be in direct conflict with biblical teachings (again, Romans 12:2), it has, in part, worked for the church. Youth are attending church.

The conflict however, is obvious, as is the hefty price the church is paying for abandoning its roots.

So, what are we to make of an institution which simultaneously supplies people with the things they are taught by that institution to reject?

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Live Debate Sunday! Should Abortion Be Legal with Trent Horn & Jonathan Brotherton

Atheist Analysis S03 E13: Should abortion remain legal? Catholic Apologist Trent Horn VS Jonathan Brotherton

Should abortion remain legal?


This will be a LIVE DEBATE between Trent Horn and Jonathan Brotherton. They will be debating whether Abortion should remain legal. Jonny will be taking the affirmative while Trent will take the negative stance. Do not miss this debate as it will be a lively debate and we will have audience participation at the end of the show.

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A few thoughts on Christianity and Technology

Christianity has never been a friend of new technology unless it is beneficial for the church, which it seldom has. Mostly because new technology means a better life for the average human being and less control for the church, plus the fact that some inventions meant less income for the church. Of course Christianity is not alone in this technological slowdown. Islam was once a religion that promoted research and new inventions. The first man to actually have been known to “fly” was a Muslim from Grenada which is in today’s Spain. He more or less broke every bone in his body, but he flew some meters before everything ended badly. Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al-Ghazali have been blamed for the stagnation in Islamic science after his work Tahâfut al-falâ-sifa, which is a philosophical work about cause and effect. This has been greatly approved as correct from both western and eastern historians and scientists though the whole truth is a bit more complex.


Christianity in contrast to, for instance, Norse religion has always been a huge hinderance for human progress when it comes to using new knowledge and technology. I am not stating that the Norse religion was better when it comes to the belief in gods, but I am saying that they were a lot more open to the use of new technology, whether they invented something them selves or “found” it. Like the compass, which initially the Christians condemned that as witchcraft until the great sailors as Magellan and Christopher Columbus gave a damn about the church and used it anyway. The Vikings invented the solar compass using a stick thread through a circle with chips in it and a solar stone which could make shadows on the chipped wooden circle even when it was clouded. Thus making them the first “world” sailors. Allowing them able to colonize Vinland (somewhere in Canada, no one knows for sure where this was), invade England, and travel to Persia to trade with both Romans and Arabians. Of course all this could have been another story if it were not for the church and it’s allergy towards new technology as the magnetic compass had been used for some time in the Asian world. It was invented in China where no one really understood the scientific reason for why it worked as it did, but they understood the importance of it in consistent navigation where visual landmarks could not be used.
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Religion: A Cult of Fear?

One of the most impactful conversations I’ve ever had in life was with one of my closest mates, Tyler.  Tyler and I have been close since we were 11 or 12. We have one of those friendships that endures no matter the time or distance apart. We do not see each other as often as we would like, but when we do get together, we pick up right where we left off. He’s the Obi-Wan to my Anakin Skywalker—always there to provide insight whenever I feel lost.

The conversation we had took place at one of the hardest times of my life.  It was near the end of my sophomore year in college and I had just gotten out of a three and a half year relationship.  Naturally, I leaned on Tyler for support. This was the first opportunity I had to share my transitioning faith with him and he was curious about what led me to move in this direction.

My answer?

The bible.
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Christianity and the Black Death

Could humanity have saved more lives during the period of the black death if it were not for the church?

As it is today, so it was back in the days of the black death. The churches have and had a lot of power, have benefited on superstition, and taken advantage of misplaced faith. Today we are dealing with the Ebola virus, which in many ways is the same as the black death. So far at least one priest from Spain has died from the virus; he went down to Liberia with no medical training whatsoever, no equipment to shield himself, only prayers and a faith in a god that could not protect him more anyone else. In other words, history repeats itself.

Basically, the Black Death started in the Crimea area of South Eastern Europe and is believed to have been spread further into Europe by Genoese traders who caught the virus from the aforementioned area. Also, Genova, which was a trading center back in the 1340s, was a calalyst in the spread to the rest of Europe. A trader from England arrived in the city of Bergen in 1349. Rats on board fled the ship and spread it’s virus and germs to the rats in Norway. And in short within two years 50% of Norway’s population was gone.

So could lives have been saved if it were not for Christianity and the catholic church ?

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